Hey shooter, having a good day?

Not sure I should say anything, seems I am apparently just - what were your words? I can't be bothered looking back to find them... Let's just say you accused me of lying? Deception? Go ahead, tell me what you're words are in your reply.

I do love however that your big assertion right now, is that I need to go down the gun range and shoot a gun, because - what? Suddenly the 20,000 American gun murders per year, the 20,000 gun suicides, and 150,000 non lethal shootings will magically disappear??

I do love that you think that holding a gun in my hands and feeling is power will change things.... because all that's really showing to us is your own sick feelings about guns.

So I do appreciate your help by continually asking me about whether I have shot a gun yet... Because it obviously tells us all that whilst you say you don't own any guns now, you are clearly still gun obsessed, and you are still, very clearly, a big part of the problem facing America right now.

 

There ya go.
Because shooter defends the 2nd amendment and can't leave the propaganda unanswered hes gun obsessed.

Heres a huge news flash for you darkride: very few gun owners, including (especially) the open carry group, are gun obsessed.

The people who are gun obsessed are the anti gun bunch who simply cannot fathom that the problem isn't the gun, its the meatheads who abuse the guns.

Seriously. Of all the people shooter knows who own guns/open carry, one has an unhealthy obsession with guns, and hes blind and would no more hurt someone with his gun than the pope would criticize creation.

 

And you still can't accept that the 2A should be updated/retracted in order to make America safe for all. Can't accept that every country that has updated their stance on guns has seen a reduction in crime. Can't accept that carrying a gun is an absurd idea in the 21st Century.

As you have said - mental health is the biggest issue here, and there is no way to safeguard against people who are mentally ill, in a country where guns are - by your own frequent demand - a RIGHT.

So unless you have a magic pill to remove all mental illness now, and forever, having a country full of guns results in a country in which not only are you losing 20,000 lives to gun homicides in the form of armed robberies, home invasions, stupid back yard disputes with neighbors, domestic violence, but you are also the capital for mass murders. Congrats on that. Well done. Bravo. Keep on helping the problem, and ignoring the solution, all because you want Americans to have a right that was never even intended for such domestic use.

Now fixate for a while on me being an American hater, and how the 2A is Holy, and all the other shit that you say, that still keeps kids dying from gun violence more than cancer.

 

so anyways, i started blasting while the aussies watched

 

And once more you show your lack of knowledge about America.
The 2nd Amendment is part of our constitution.
It doesn't get "updated" just because the President or whoever thinks it would be a good idea.
It takes 2/3 of the states (34 states) to approve any change.

So yeah. Our constitution is in fact "Holy" for us.
And that's by design, before you go bad mouthing America some more.
The founders understood that the constitution would need updating, but they didn't want to make that easy.
Shooter doubts that even 1/3 of Americans would take to your goofy ideas, so amending the constitution isn't an option.
Understand? Your solution isn't a solution.
But thanks for playing.

For you to try and minimalize that and just so arrogantly dismiss it just underscores that from up there on your high moral ground where you so readily judge us, you only exhibit your stupid and your arrogance.

What Shooter has noticed about people who always seem to want to help everyone else with their problems is that those people have big problems themselves that they just don't want to deal with. You know. Kind of a "My shit stinks really bad, what's yours smell like?"

So maybe, the next time you want to go on a rant about America you ought first to clean up your own shit and stay in your lane.

You don't understand our problem, you don't understand us, and you are not qualified to judge us or our problems.
And in trying to tell us how to run our business, all you do is demonstrate just how fucked up you are with your own business.
Fix our problems, you arrogant ass?
Siddown.

 

Only a moroon believes they have no issues at home and therefore have a right to tell others how to fix or change theirs. @darkride can’t stand how his country is run so he bitches about ours.

 

LOLOLOLOLOL

Thanks, I love a good laugh. Great way to wake up.

Yeah, my country sucks... I hate how when my first born spent a week in hospital, it cost me $0. How many Americans are bankrupted each year because they dared to be sick?
I hate how my university student loan of $30k took me a few years to pay off. What's the average US student loan worth?
And I really hated how when a guy with mental illness killed 35 people, the government did absolutely nothing about it. Oh no wait - they did, and we haven't had a mass shooting since, and our gun crime reduced massively...

Australia has plenty of issues... Our First Nations people are overly represented in jail, are more likely to die in childhood, to not have an education... I am not saying we're perfect... But do you know what kills our kids? Cancer. What kills yours? Oh right - guns. How fucked up is that??? Too right I'll bitch about your country's lack of action on gun reform. Your kids are dying, and all you have to do about it is exactly what Australia did. Every excuse that you throw against gun reform is exactly what the idiots here in Australia also cried about. And know what? It was all bullshit.

 

NO ONE gives a fuck what you think. Good bye outsider.

 

As Citizens of Israel Scramble for Guns Under Loosened Gun Laws, Jewish Americans Are Also Arming Themselves

It’s not often that I will cite CNN or agree with them on anything. However, I give credit where it is due. In a recent report, the outlet highlighted the rise in Jewish Americans arming themselves in the face of rising antisemitism.

According to CNN, “With threats against American Jews on the rise, many have begun seeking firearms training and purchasing weapons out of fear for the safety of their communities and families, according to interviews CNN has conducted with gun range operators, firearms instructors, and Jews in the US in recent days.”

The ADL (Anti-Defamation League) reports a nearly 400-percent increase in preliminary antisemitic incidents reported year over year. This includes a recorded total of 312 antisemitic incidents since the October 7, 2023, Hamas attack on Israel. And if the rise in pro-Palestinian protests is any indication, this will not be decreasing anytime soon.

The real kicker is that according to CNN, “A rise in American Jewish gun ownership would come as a noticeable shift for a group that is historically liberal and a majority of which are registered Democrats.”

What makes this significant is that the increase in antisemitism is coming predominantly from the Democrat party.


Not to mention, according to the CNN report, “‘In terms of the Jewish community overall, I know most people do not own guns just because most Jews are liberal and want gun control,’ Mark told CNN.”

Likewise, 70% of Jewish respondents favored gun control over American rights in a 2018 American Jewish Committee poll.

A Drastic 180
Although the American Jewish community is predominantly Democrat and anti-gun, its citizens are now scrambling for firearms and training. This is a drastic 180 as it finds the party it supports violently turning on its community.

“Now more than ever with the rise in antisemitism, I feel we have a responsibility as Jews to speak up and speak out, and also know how to protect ourselves because the reality is people don’t seem to want us around, and it’s hard,” Dani, who declined to share her last name for her safety, told CNN.


According to the report, Gene Petrino, a retired SWAT commander in Coral Springs, Florida, 15 – 20 Jewish people a week are seeking training since the war broke out. Likewise, New York State Jewish Gun Club founder told CNN it’s hard to keep up with the increase in demand. The club normally offers the class required for a pistol permit once or twice a month for around twelve people.

“Since what happened in Israel, we have done three classes at probably four or five times the size,” he said.

The report states, “He’s been shocked, he shared, at the type of people joining his classes recently – people who were previously unaccepting of guns as a means of safety who now see the value in it, he said.”

Maybe right now isn’t the time to be pushing for more gun control. However, it really isn’t surprising that those pushing for more gun control are also the ones targeting Jewish Americans. That should tell you everything you need to know about the actual gun control agenda.


Spoiler alert: it’s about control.

On October 31, 2023, Joshua Swanagon reported:
It is probably no surprise to most, but after the attack on Israel, causing it to loosen its gun laws, license applications and firearm purchases are surging in the country. Not to mention, Israel’s government is arming civilian security forces, and many civilians are taking firearm classes. Of course, if the country hadn’t disarmed its populace, it wouldn’t be scrambling to defend itself.

 

According to Newsweek, “Thousands of people were dancing at the Supernova festival early Saturday when the surprise assault on Israel took place. After hearing sirens and rockets go off, festival-goers heard a barrage of gunfire that halted the music and sent crowds scrambling to get to safety. At least 260 bodies have been recovered from the festival site in the Negev Desert in southern Israel, according to rescue agency Zaka.”

In response to the attack, Israel’s Minister of National Security, Itamar Ben-Gvir called for broadened standards for issuing firearm licenses.

 

If you're anti gun, then i am anti you, and you need to get the fuck out of my country

 

Here's a fanciful prediction...

Finally enough Americans will vote Democrat, giving them a clear majority, and the loathsome anti-rights terrible Democrats will enact serious, wide reaching gun reform, probably after updating the 2A.

Republicans from their minority will be screaming and ranting and raving, encouraging widespread disobedience. Rednecks everywhere will go down fighting rather than hand over their guns, giving the Republicans even more to cry about those treacherous Democrats.

After 4 years, the people of America will be wary, with the Republicans decrying their big experiment a big failure, because there will be no discernible change to the gun deaths, no drop in crime. However the polls will still see the Democrats in power, and the Republicans without the numbers to change the gun reforms.

Another 4 years will pass, now 8 years of gun reform, 8 years of constant stories of gun owners refusing to give up their guns, and Americans continuing to die. There will however be the beginnings of the reforms from 8 years ago starting to show through. It took Australia 10 years for our gun crime to reach a plateau, so I can't imagine gun reform in America happening anywhere near as fast given the current state of the country.

Whatever benefits may have been starting to blossom will not be enough for the people of America, and they will once again heavily vote Republican, and the gun reforms will be scraped, the 2A reinstated.

And the murders will continue.

Fuck that is miserable... and yet the best future I can see for your country. There will never be an end. You are all doomed to continue being known as the country that values gun ownership more than stopping mass shootings and children dying from the gun instead of anything else.

 

How do you explain it? How do you explain the fact that America is the only Western country facing all of these mass shootings? What is it about your country, with your 400m guns and 30-40% gun ownership, that makes you the Worldwide Capital of Mass Shootings? How can you not accept those 400m guns, and 30-40% gun ownership are part of the problem?

Crime in Australia has decreased since the 1996 gun reforms. That's ALL crime, not just gun crime. When you do isolate gun crime in Australia - it began to decrease after the reforms, and now we have a handful of shootings per year. Is that JUST the gun reforms? Maybe? Would our gun crime be worse if we did not have gun reform? Well, I could look at America, and say yes, absolutely.

As for our increasing number of guns, and why this hasn't seen an increase in gun crime - as you yourself said - our number of gun owners is not increasing. Just the number of guns they own. If the assumption is that a gun owner may one day use their guns illegally - having a higher volume of guns, but a static number of gun owners - the likelihood of gun crime is not going to increase.

For America - the volume of guns is certainly a big factor, but it's the quantity of gun owners that's the real problem.

 

To those questioning my motivations in posting here - it is now, and has always been for the children of America. When Sandyhook happened, I had a kid the same age as all those kids that were murdered. The rest of the world was sure that that horrific event would wake you all up, that it would be the final straw, and gun reform would happen.

It didn't.

So here I am, because 2/3 of Americans apparently cannot see fit to ban guns just like the rest of the civilised world. And now it's even worse than Sandyhook, with guns being the number 1 killer of American kids...

Once you start looking at the harm that all those gun murders are doing to America, you realise it's more than just the kids... It's the families of every one of those dead Americans... It's the economic burden to those families, and businesses... It's the emotional scars...

Then people here doubt me, and I look even further. Oh look - you're 12 times more likely to be murdered in Australia, than in America. That's not a gun stat - that's just simple murder. How can that be? America the Mighty, America the Great, America - land of the free... But your society is rotting. How else can you explain the high crime rate, the poverty, the massive gap between the rich and the poor? Creating a society in which more and more turn to crime. Then more and more of you feel you need guns to protect yourself and your family.

And yet what you need is the opposite - less guns, more welfare and healthcare. Maybe then you'll see a drop in crime, and murder.